Hardcore sheep (spoilerish)

[FlowerChild]

(brown+white=lime green)

Errrr...that might be a bug. Either that or you got one hell of a mutation.

[xou816]

I haven't had the time to test out this, but reading FC's 1.3 playthrough gave me an idea...
What if FC allowed naturally dyed sheeps to spawn? Meaning blue ones, lime ones, etc. So they are valuable.

[walker_boh_65]

I haven't had the time to test out this, but reading FC's 1.3 playthrough gave me an idea...
What if FC allowed naturally dyed sheeps to spawn? Meaning blue ones, lime ones, etc. So they are valuable.

Thinly veiled suggestions don't do well here.

[CycloneSP]

Hmmmmm, yes, okay. speculation: good. Ideas: bad. Acutally playing with the new features: ideal.

EDIT: dang ninja's

[morvelaira]

I wonder if brown + white = lime green being very odd means they fall something close to the dye recipes with a bit of mutation wiggle room. I will have to test this...

[FlowerChild]

Thinly veiled suggestions don't do well here.

Especially when I already implemented them earlier in the day ;)

I wonder if brown + white = lime green being very odd means they fall something close to the dye recipes with a bit of mutation wiggle room. I will have to test this...

Never have I seen folks have this much fun with sheep without wearing a kilt.

[Mason11987]

(brown+white=lime green)

Errrr...that might be a bug. Either that or you got one hell of a mutation.

A few other results I got that I found particularly strange:

brown+brown= yellow
green+lime green = blue

I assumed they were mutations.

[walker_boh_65]

Thinly veiled suggestions don't do well here.

Especially when I already implemented them earlier in the day ;)

Wait, you did? Is that is the release we have, or just yours?

[FlowerChild]

A few other results I got that I found particularly strange:

brown+brown= yellow
green+lime green = blue

I assumed they were mutations.

Well, I'll do a quick pass on these combinations to make sure. I basically had to go through each of the possibilities by hand, so it's entirely possible I flubbed a few in there.

I've also put some more work into the system today, so things are going to be changing slightly with the next release.

[xou816]

Walker... By idea I meant an idea on what hardcore sheep is. Why you guys are so aggressive when we say the word idea?

[FlowerChild]

Wait, you did? Is that is the release we have, or just yours?

Just mine. I made a few additional changes to the system after sleeping on it. Nothing that breaks anything in the current one, just a few more refinements.

[walker_boh_65]

Walker... By idea I meant an idea on what hardcore sheep is. Why you guys are so aggressive when we say the word idea?

Because you wanted a change to a system the FC just implemented today.

Just mine. I made a few additional changes to the system after sleeping on it. Nothing that breaks anything in the current one, just a few more refinements.

So we might get the 4 for 4?

[Thordan Ssoa]

Playing with this system is going to eat my days isn't it? As if BtW didn't eat enough of my productivity as is. Also, does this increase sheep spawning rates? I seem to have an extremely high ratio of sheep to other animals in my world. Somewhere around 5 sheep for 1 chicken, pig, or cow.

Walker... By idea I meant an idea on what hardcore sheep is. Why you guys are so aggressive when we say the word idea?

In context, it wasn't the best word to use.

Never have I seen folks have this much fun with sheep without wearing a kilt.

Also, LOL!

[xou816]

Walker... By idea I meant an idea on what hardcore sheep is. Why you guys are so aggressive when we say the word idea?

Because you wanted a change to a system the FC just implemented today.

Have you even read my post? Just like everyone here I was trying to find out what hardcore sheep is

[utakataJ6]

Playing with this system is going to eat my days isn't it? As if BtW didn't eat enough of my productivity as is. Also, does this increase sheep spawning rates? I seem to have an extremely high ratio of sheep to other animals in my world. Somewhere around 5 sheep for 1 chicken, pig, or cow.

Walker... By idea I meant an idea on what hardcore sheep is. Why you guys are so aggressive when we say the word idea?

In context, it wasn't the best word to use.

Never have I seen folks have this much fun with sheep without wearing a kilt.

Also, LOL!

Nah, that ratio already exists. Sheep dominate - I assume because even in vanilla their spawn rate was increased when they started spawning in multiple colors.

[jorgebonafe]

Walker... By idea I meant an idea on what hardcore sheep is. Why you guys are so aggressive when we say the word idea?

Because you wanted a change to a system the FC just implemented today.

I think he meant he had a thought on how the system "did" work, not on how it "should" work, I mean, he wasn't really making a sugestion, he just made a poor choice of words...

[xou816]

Walker... By idea I meant an idea on what hardcore sheep is. Why you guys are so aggressive when we say the word idea?

Because you wanted a change to a system the FC just implemented today.

I think he meant he had a thought on how the system "did" work, not on how it "should" work, I mean, he wasn't really making a sugestion, he just made a poor choice of words...

Exactly! Thank you jorgebonafe. English is not my primary language. And I did not have the time to check out if these features existed.

[Twololcats]

Would it be possible to breed in other characteristics than wool color?

What other characteristics do they have?

Shearing yield, health, hostile/peaceful/neutral, attack strength, speed of wool growth, carnivorous/hervivorous/omnivorous.

imagine the possibilities, we may be seeing in chat logs: <Player> cancels farming, killed by Sheep
*begins plotting gene sequence for high health, low yield, hostile, slow wool growing, carnivorous, white sheep* (just imagine unleashing that on the world, looks the same as a normal sheep, but is ridiculously powerful, nigh impossible to kill, and completely psychopathic, and after all of the trouble, the gain is just not worth it :D)

That is hilarious! I love it XD
It reminds me of forestry's bee breeding, except with sheep
Speaking of which maybe all animals could have certain traits or variables, that'd be interesting...
But great work fc, awesome new releases/features FTW

[walker_boh_65]

Found a weird mutation, guess I just got lucky. After breeding was must have been an easy 125+ pairs of pure white sheep, I single black baby popped out. This leads me to believe that, while not very practical at all, it might be possible to get all the colors of sheep from just a pair of white sheep.

[Rianaru]

Methinks one of your pure white sheep was having some fun on the side...

[Itamarcu]

Found a weird mutation, guess I just got lucky. After breeding was must have been an easy 125+ pairs of pure white sheep, I single black baby popped out. This leads me to believe that, while not very practical at all, it might be possible to get all the colors of sheep from just a pair of white sheep.

I breeded ~50 sheep, and one was pink. So yeah, all colors of the spectrum.

...Well, unless you're one of those guys who say pink is not a color.

[FlowerChild]

I breeded ~50 sheep, and one was pink. So yeah, all colors of the spectrum.

Well, not exactly...at least not that easily.

Mutations are restricted to specific colors, and are usually fairly subtle. They WILL eventually provide you with all the basic tools you need to get a full range, but selective breeding will be required after that to get exactly what you want.

This was largely what was involved in the change I made to mutations in last night's release. Just a further refinement to require a little more thought on the part of the player, and less dependence on chance.

[odranoel]

I breeded ~50 sheep, and one was pink. So yeah, all colors of the spectrum.

Well, not exactly...at least not that easily.

Mutations are restricted to specific colors, and are usually fairly subtle. They WILL eventually provide you with all the basic tools you need to get a full range, but selective breeding will be required after that to get exactly what you want.

This was largely what was involved in the change I made to mutations in last night's release. Just a further refinement to require a little more thought on the part of the player, and less dependence on chance.

so if i understand this correctly, white sheep will only give use a few specific colors, and then we have to breed those few colored sheep with each other to eventually get the rest? in other words you CAN get the full spectrum from white sheep, but only when you breed their mutant children with eachother? so in other words, white sheep only gives you a limited few mutated babys (say only four fixed diff colors), but then those mutant babies can be breed with eachother to eventually provide all the rest of the colors? so you can end up with the full spectrum by starting off with just two original white sheep? (after tons of breeding of course)

[Battlecat]

so if i understand this correctly, white sheep will only give use a few specific colors, and then we have to breed those few colored sheep with each other to eventually get the rest? in other words you CAN get the full spectrum from white sheep, but only when you breed their mutant children with eachother? so in other words, white sheep only gives you a limited few mutated babys (say only four fixed diff colors), but then those mutant babies can be breed with eachother to eventually provide all the rest of the colors? so you can end up with the full spectrum from just two original white sheep? (after tons of breeding of course)

I think that would be exactly right. That's effectively how selective breeding works in reality as well. You breed the offspring that have the desired traits to enhance those traits in the next generation.

Have to say, the hardcore sheep are a brilliant idea FC, it's going to be a lot of fun sorting through these combinations.

[Cuchonchuir]

This is deliciously, diabolically brilliant. I am already devising in my head a massive pen system to allow me to breed whatever color I wish . . . Man, my base is going to be getting so huge in order to accomodate this.