BTW Ministry of Propaganda

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Folrig
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BTW Ministry of Propaganda

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Welcome to the Better Than Wolves: Ministry of Propaganda

Please come, enjoy a drink and a snack. Afterwards you can "sit down" and we'll tape your eye lids open, then we will watch a video together. It will be wonderful!

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My wife and I watch more youtube than TV, and scattered in that viewing are the occasional Minecraft gaming videos. While the personalities of the gamers are entertaining it started becoming apparent that they really are not having much fun playing Minecraft. Even when they include some of the more "advanced" technical mods. However, when they played with mods or on maps that increased restrictions or difficulty the gamers often had much more fun, and it would show.

That being said, I began to consider why they were having more fun on those maps or mods. I would also contrast the "why" with the opinions of folks like FC, TB and other's (here on this forum and elsewhere). The obvious conclusion was that the elements gamers were enjoying were also hardcore additions in Better Than Wolves.

This realization was the genesis of the "Remember when..." campaign, and once I was in "propaganda mode" the other tag lines followed suit. I'm clearly not great at this, but I thought: if I make the ideas available to others, then they can run with them. If my ideas fall flat, so be it. Then lets make this thread a centralized location to discuss and find Better Than Wolves banners, slogans, etc.

I can't be the only one to have noticed that Minecrafters need the strength of gaming that is in Better Than Wolves.
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The following is a list of the resources I use when building banners.

---Note---
Remember, the goal here is to get people curious so they will click on the image and discover BTW.

---Image Editor---
Paint.net - I chose this because it is more forgiving than MS Paint (when I use layers properly) and costs less than Photoshop (free!).

---Banner sizes---
MCF signature banner allowance: 728 x 100 pixels

FC uses a banner size of 596 x 100 pixels
This is my typical banner size. Though, during design the banners are much larger (1217 x 205) and then reduced when the final product is achieved.

---Frame Reference---
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvnbpq5dz9hea ... erence.pdn

This is my pdn file (Paint.net file) that has my "frame references." Each of the three red boxes bounds the banner area. Meaning: inside the boxes is the size of the banners. So, what I do is I use the "magic wand tool" and "select" the inside of the frame and crop the canvas to the selected size. This leaves me with an image that is the correct banner size. Of course I do this after I have designed the banner and I am ready to save the image. And this is probably only helpful to people using Paint.net :P

---BTW Banner html code---
The following code will link the banner to the Better Than Wolves MCF page.

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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]INSERT IMAGE CODE HERE[/img][/url]
Slogans/Tag lines
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These are some of the slogans/tag lines I used. This is always where I began a banner design.

---Challenge Campaign---
3 Night Challenge
Can you survive to the dawn of day four? That’s just the beginning. BTW

---"Remember When" Campaign---
Remember when Minecraft was fun?

Remember when you were afraid of the dark?

Remember when you were afraid of monsters?
Remember when monsters were frightening?

Remember when death was bad?
Remember when dying was bad?
Remember when dying in Minecraft was bad?

Remember when diamonds were exciting?

---Misc---
Are you homesick? Me too. Better Than Wolves to RTH.

Is Hardcore mode fun, but too punishing?
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Challenge Banner
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3 Night Challenge: Can you survive to the dawn of day four?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3966/5rhm.png[/img][/url]
So, I picked three nights because that was what I struggled with before I was able to pull myself together. This may not be the best time frame to get someone hooked on BTW.
Remember When Banners
Remember when Minecraft was fun?
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Remember when Minecraft was fun?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1074/dlpf.png[/img][/url]
This one is probably my favorite and the most poignant. I pulled the companion cube from google images. So, if it is your cube's picture and you don't want me to use it, please let me know.
Remember when you were afraid of the dark?
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Remember when when you were afraid of the dark?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://imageshack.com/a/img545/8642/bsyl.png[/img][/url]
This was actually the first one I made, and it was fun enough to continue. This image could also work with (and may have been better than the one I used) "...afraid of monsters?"
Remember when dying was bad?
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Remember when when dying was bad?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2905/nsq7.png[/img][/url]
I think this one is significant, because death has to be the most abused mechanic in Minecraft.

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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2138/mu8p.png[/img][/url]
Using "Game Over" death screen.

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Remember when when dying in Minecraft was bad?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5408/ar2.png[/img][/url]
I made this variant because I wasn't sure about the first one just saying "dying" in a nonspecific manner.

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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8342/z3b6.png[/img][/url]
Using "Game Over" death screen.
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Homesick
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Homesick? Me too, let's Return to Home together.
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8986/ya4s.png[/img][/url]
Now this banner is just awful, but I really wanted to make a reference to RTH :P So, I tried and I just couldn't think of a good way to word the phrase. I'm not entirely sure I like the picture either.
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Is Hardcore mode fun, but too punishing?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8459/idkd.png[/img][/url]
People like danger right?
Comments, questions, smart remarks? I put these out here to get people's opinions on my and other's ideas. Does it make sense? Would you read any of these and click on the banner? Keep in mind the goal of banners is to drive traffic, and I want to drive traffic to FC's Better Than Wolves MC forum page.

Let's hear your ideas for tag lines and themes and see your banners.

Also, feel free to take these images and do what you want with them. You don't need to use the code I have presented. I don't even care for the credit (not that they are that good).
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This is awesome. I like it so much, can't find words to describe.
Just added one of them to my signature :D

so to answer your questions:
-It absolutely makes sense
-I would click on one of them, and I believe there are many players out there they got bored of minecraft and still don't know about BTW.

I would like to do one on my own, but I'm not good at it. Will see what it will look like.

But so far just some tag lines that went trough my mind:
-Remember when you were afraid of the NETHER?
-You know how Endermen came to the 'Overworld'?
-You know what temple where built for?
there are more... but I don't want to bore anybody.
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The "afraid of the dark" banner is pretty good, I like it. One thing though, there's an extra F in "affraid". :P
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You have got it wrong . . . this is the "Ministry of Truth."
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Remember when an Achievement was more than just opening your Inventory?
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abzu93 wrote:Remember when an Achievement was more than just opening your Inventory?
Hah, I like it.
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logorouge wrote:The "afraid of the dark" banner is pretty good, I like it. One thing though, there's an extra F in "affraid". :P
Wow, good job me. I'll have to fix that one later. I do this before I start work in the mornings, so it may be a couple of days.

Thanks for the positive response guys! I need to put my "border reference" pdn file up as well. That can be a good starting point.
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I think the challenge banner is a particularly good idea, as many vanilla players are drawn to them after the recent focus by Mojang and LPers.
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Alrighty, I fixed the "Remember when you were afraid of the dark?" banner. One "f". I had fixed that in the pdn, but not the image. *sigh*

The worst part is I just found out I cannot hot-swap images on ImageShack. One try only! Which means Epsilon, you're going to have to fix your signature's code. I'm sorry man.
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I like the challenger banner. I suggest making one with the death screen "You died." message as the background. It would taunt people into trying. I'd put one together, but I'm at work currently.
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So, I added my "Frame Reference.pdn" file to my OP in an attempt to make banner creation as easy as possible. I'm afraid this is likely only going to be helpful to folks using Paint.net, as I am not familiar with other image editing software. This can be found in "Resources".
---Frame Reference---
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvnbpq5dz9hea ... erence.pdn

This is my pdn file (Paint.net file) that has my "frame references." Each of the three red boxes bounds the banner area. Meaning: inside the boxes is the size of the banners. So, what I do is I use the "magic wand tool" and "select" the inside of the frame and crop the canvas to the selected size. This leaves me with an image that is the correct banner size. Of course I do this after I have designed the banner and I am ready to save the image. And this is probably only helpful to people using Paint.net :P
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So this is my first try.... will have to do it again :(
Can you just tell me which font you're using. Couldn't find it when I was looking for it. I would also appreciate any other advice how to use paint.net better.

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looks better, doesn't it?
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Font looks to be Blackadder ITC, but I'm not sure, been a while since I used cursiva fonts like that.
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Good job! I really like the: Remember when you where afraid of the dark?
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:D I decided to make some... more light hearted ones. Enjoy! :)
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Using a font that doesn't make me want to punch kittens:
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I added a few more banners to the OP:
Remember when dying was bad?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2138/mu8p.png[/img][/url]
Using "Game Over" death screen.

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Remember when when dying in Minecraft was bad?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8342/z3b6.png[/img][/url]
Using "Game Over" death screen.
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Is Hardcore mode fun, but too punishing?
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[url=http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=275333][img]http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8459/idkd.png[/img][/url]
People like danger right?
I also added an "anyone can use these" statement.
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Looking good. How about a statement like "This isn't your little brother's Minecraft." Not sure what would be a good background image, maybe the spider eyes one.
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Rob wrote:Looking good. How about a statement like "This isn't your little brother's Minecraft." Not sure what would be a good background image, maybe the spider eyes one.
I would suggest a beast, but seeing one in a picture isn't quite as scarring as having one outside your door... ;)
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EpicAaron wrote:I would suggest a beast, but seeing one in a picture isn't quite as scarring as having one outside your door... ;)
Yeah, I was leaning towards a beast picture as well, but it's just not the same. The Beast is terrifying because of the sounds, and the way he eats your face.
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I was going to try something with angry wolves...but when I take a screen shot they turn into wolves with red eyes. I may try something like a picture of a happy wolf/dog with a caption that reads: Evil, Anger, and Death.
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