Hardcore Nether?

[jstu9]

Ok, I think I have now died 7-8 times entering the Nether. This was my first time going into the nether with BTW. I'm new to the mod so I'm assuming there is Hardcore Nether though I haven't specifically read anything about it. I've only experienced it now.

I reach the nether and I have now counted 7 ghasts shooting at me. I have my 7-8 extinguished portals all lined right next to each plus two on a ledge above the other 5-6. I think I have run out of cobblestone (well almost) with my attempts of protecting the portals leaving walls of cobblestone, dirt and netherrack scattered about. I just don't have the time (well I actually think its that I don't have the skill ;)

I figure I have 2 options. 1) My last time there I ran towards a wall and made a dirt hut against the wall. I probably can carry some obsidian and make a portal there. That I assume will link to the one at my base and since the one I come out will be extinguished by the ghasts, I'm good to go. 2) Travel >1000 blocks out and build a portal there and hope for the best.

Ok, off to do that (well actually find my way home first... this is the first of the 7-8 prior times I don't know where I am)

[Taleric]

That is a crap ton of HC spawns!

Sounds like you are about set now aside from all the extra portals.

On that initial portal it is paramount to quickly build a shelter and gradually expand around the portal.

Roaming the nether even briefly is near impossibly till late game.

Before I pop the first portal I make sure to have 4-5 stacks of cobble just for base camp.

[odranoel]

jesus is the nether that intense now? i havnt reached the nether yet since hardcore hell was implamented a few releases ago. guna really have to gear up for this one.

[Epsilon]

hey,
extinguished portals are a vanilla problem I hate, too! It makes things look ugly. Basicly the ghasts are a vanilla problem too, although FC improved them a bit.
But yea... nether spawning is a pain in the ass sometimes!

[VegasGoat]

I probably can carry some obsidian and make a portal there. That I assume will link to the one at my base and since the one I come out will be extinguished by the ghasts, I'm good to go.

Definitely this, it should link to the same portal in the overworld. The nether is really dangerous now, even in full enchanted diamond armor you won't survive out in the open (without skill, which I lack). I learned that the hard way, I'm in the middle of another compass run now. That secure entry point is the first thing you need. After that, don't go out in the open AT ALL. Make tunnels to get around. Soul sand piles can be used to find a fortress while tunneling so you don't actually need to go out in the open for that.

The biggest thing I learned about hardcore hell is that you have to be careful and patient. Rushing in will get you killed.

[Sockthing]

I have the exact same issue in my world, well nether.. I guess the plan with loads of cobble is the one to go with.

But a question I do have: is it worth the effort of making arrows to fight the ghasts or are stacks of rotten arrows a way?

[VegasGoat]

I wouldn't fight the ghasts, period, but that's because my aim stinks. Rotten arrows will definitely not cut it, though, they don't have the range.

[TheGatesofLogic]

don't worry too much, that kind of thing happens, but once you get there I HIGHLY recommend creating a bloodwood tree to stop those ghast spawns, once you get one up and relatively large you can place a shit ton of soulsand around the area and burn the original to exponentially grow your safezone. make sure to extinguish the fires around the first portals though, it is crucial that you don't burn your first couple trees though, because those are good line-of-sight barriers as well even though they may be small, in my world i have maybe 40 VERY large bloodwood trees surrounding my portal and although i get a few ghasts, they usually fail to be a serious issue

[ExpHP]

That I assume will link to the one at my base and since the one I come out will be extinguished by the ghasts, I'm good to go.

Definitely this, it should link to the same portal in the overworld.

Mmm, depends on how far that wall is.

You can hope for the best, but I suggest you prepare for the worst. The radius for overlapping portals is far, far smaller in the Nether than it is in the overworld. You can walk it in less than 5 seconds.

[EtherealWrath]

The radius for overlapping portals is surprisingly large

The server I'm on- my portal dropped into an already existing pair, overworld distance between mine and his was roughly 800 blocks or so.
(works out about a half days walk once slabbed and clear of tall grass)

[Gunnerman21]

the code for nether portals is so wonky... why not just have all portals make new ones? who cares if the portal you come out of is a dozen blocks away from another person's?...

[FlowerChild]

You're creating portals to and from hell. I think if anything deserves to be an imprecise science that's prone to error: that's it.

[Gunnerman21]

I still think it's a bit illogical to not always follow the 1 to 8 rule, but yeah youve got a point..

[ExpHP]

The radius for overlapping portals is surprisingly large

The server I'm on- my portal dropped into an already existing pair, overworld distance between mine and his was roughly 800 blocks or so.
(works out about a half days walk once slabbed and clear of tall grass)

Yep. Sounds about right for the overworld.

Basically, when the portal searches for its destination, the search radius is the same on either side. Which almost makes sense until you do the math, and realize that it makes the distance for two portals to overlap 64 times smaller when you're building one in the nether.


Though accidentally opening an unprotected portal to the wilderness at night does make things interesting!

[jstu9]

I finally found my way home after wandering around for several hours.

I'll probably brave the nether tomorrow though I might try to explore my area a bit more. When I HC Spawn, about 2/3 of the time i spawn somewhere I know.