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Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:21 pm
by muggsbud
alright guys, I'm stuck in the end trying to pick up after an explosion knocked off my spectacles; resulting in a rather thorough ass rape with no reach-around.

So; how do we make the new explody stuffs, and what will go wrong with that. as implied here:
FlowerChild wrote:
Ferrus.Manus wrote: I also love how intuitive recipes for Blasting Oil and Dynamite are, I figured those pretty much instantly.
You may not be so happy you did shortly ;)
anyone know?

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:26 pm
by Azdoine
I believe it's
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1 tallow and 1 hellfire dust=2 blasting oil
in the
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stewing pot

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:28 pm
by Ferrus.Manus
Yep, and dynamite is
Paper | Fuse
Paper | Blasting Oil
Paper | Saw Dust

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:35 pm
by muggsbud
is there not any hidden features other than that?

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:36 pm
by Azdoine
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HC buckets doesn't function in the endrealm, water works like it used to

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:39 pm
by muggsbud
ok, i was expecting that when i saw the change. I figured it would make sense given the end's mystical properties and the fact that endermen hate it gives it great use there. but like it says in the op, FC posted that 'you may not be so happy you [figured that out] shortly' - was he just trolling?

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:52 pm
by htothetml
I love how nearly everything is put in spoilers in the spoiler thread. And I don't think he was trolling. He also said that there were more mistakes people could make now. Perhaps its one where it has to be unstoked or it will explode. Or perhaps if you have to much blasting oil it will explode?

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:57 pm
by Battlecat
Well in terms of mistakes, I suspect stoking the cauldron when making blasting oil could be interesting. Haven't had a chance to test that yet though.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:07 pm
by Ferrus.Manus
Nitroglycerin is extremely unstable and can explode form any stronger physical shock or heat, and since BtW blasting oil (though IRL "blasting oil" was mix of gunpowder and nitroglycerin sold by Nobel before invention of dynamite) is based if it so there's definitely lot of potential ways for thing to go very, very wrong. I did make several 4 stacks of blasting oil and everything is fine so far though.

EDIT: Heh, reading wiki about it it seems we have almost everything in BtW to make gelignite

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:11 pm
by muggsbud
try jumping off a cliff with some in your inventory. Maybe it'll go boom? like creepers from 1.4?

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:20 pm
by CycloneSP
did you try tossing some of it into an open flame? Or did you try lighting yourself on fire while holding it? Or even jumping into the nether with the stuff? Might be nothing, might be boomboomkaboom too. :P

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:31 pm
by Ferrus.Manus
Did some testing and you are both correct actually. Taking ANY damage (even poison tick) while having blasting oil in inventory will cause it to explode.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:52 pm
by muggsbud
holy shit... i didn't expect it to work...

GO FC!

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:54 pm
by FlowerChild
muggsbud wrote:holy shit... i didn't expect it to work...

GO FC!
Hehe...thanks. Being a base-class modding maniac has its privileges ;)

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:20 pm
by Six
Ferrus.Manus wrote:Did some testing and you are both correct actually. Taking ANY damage (even poison tick) while having blasting oil in inventory will cause it to explode.
Amazing. So many hilarious possibilities.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:34 pm
by Mason11987
Holy crap!

Careful dropping blasting oil!

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:41 pm
by finite8
OMG... evil trap idea
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Your enemy enters your base and has trigger your "silent" alarm. They must now travel down a long ladder to your base.

Up top, you dispense blasting oil. It gets automatically collected into their inventory. They may not notice the "pop" noise. Then all you need to do is apply a little bit of damage. Crush, 1 arrow, remove ladders, anything and foom! Your opponent self destructs.

*evil grin*

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:55 pm
by DaveYanakov
Even better, carry some with you in anarchy play and people will stop trying to slap you with an axe after you blow up in their face a few times.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:03 am
by Ferrus.Manus
DaveYanakov wrote:Even better, carry some with you in anarchy play and people will stop trying to slap you with an axe after you blow up in their face a few times.
And then random skeleton shoots you. Or you slightly miscalculate jump. Or any other case you may take damage.

I wonder if this will work with zombies being able to pick items in 1.4, and if it will there could be some hilarious results.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:21 am
by DaveYanakov
Still worth it because it's funny and you don't normally take damage while working in your own base.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:28 am
by Six
Main problem with that tactic is if the person that finds you is smart, and uses a bow. Then it is just hilarious for them.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:37 am
by Ferrus.Manus
Also - Blasting Oil in item form explodes if it gets dropped from more than few meters, touches fire or is caught in another explosion.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:32 am
by PizzaSHARK!
DaveYanakov wrote:Even better, carry some with you in anarchy play and people will stop trying to slap you with an axe after you blow up in their face a few times.
Call yourself Jihad Joe. It even ends up being pronounced the same as the old cartoon's "Gee-eye Jooooooooe!"

Damn, that'd actually be pretty fun. You'd be like a more aggressive, intelligent, persistent creeper.

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:38 am
by DaveYanakov
PizzaSHARK! wrote: <potentially inflammatory comment>
Can we please not go here?

Re: Spoilers for 4.3 explosives

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:40 am
by FlowerChild
He won't. Discussing politics is grounds for an insta-ban. Being a bigot is doubly so.