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Version 2.91 of Better Than Wolves is ready for download!

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This version contains the following changes:

-Added alternate recipe for cake using Flour instead of unprocessed wheat.

-Added ability to melt-down various items in the Crucible.

-Added custom rendering effects to the Crucible.

-Added Pottery sloughing off clay as it is formed.

-Changed Hopper to not delay when picking up items dropped by the player.

-Fixed problem with Planters where plants could be planted on them in their default state.

-Fixed problem with Block Dispenser not being able to swallow powered cake.

-Fixed problem with Crucible consuming incorrect amounts of iron when multiple stacks were present in its inventory.

-Fixed problem with Crucible not dropping its contents when it is destroyed.

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Enjoy! :)

Ouch. You're going to hate me in about a minute :)

No I don't hate you FC just a tad annoyed... Should have known this was coming...

My goodness Flower. I was all "OH SHIT he updated again already??" when I saw 2.9. and you have the next one out now? Amazing job man :) So glad I stumbled across BTW on one of my rare occasions of browsing forums. Minecraft + BTW is my new vMC ^.^

and most people only crank out an update this size every few weeks. Bravo Flowerchild

Placing an iron tool in the crucible will return the correct amount of metal ingots. (1 for shovel 3 for pickaxe etc)

Edit: works for steel tools
Gold tools
Powered rail > returns the gold
Detector rail > returns iron
Rail > does nothing
Compass > returns 4 iron
Clock > returns 4 gold
Iron armor> returns appropriate amount of iron
Gold armor > returns appropriate amount of gold

You know FC that your pretty much makign this impossible for me to make myself that plugin for itemcraft...

TheGuy wrote:Placing an iron tool in the crucible will return the correct amount of metal ingots. (1 for shovel 3 for pickaxe etc)

Edit: works for steel tools
Gold tools
Powered rail > returns the gold
Detector rail > returns iron
Rail > does nothing
Compass > returns 4 iron
Clock > returns 4 gold
Iron armor> returns appropriate amount of iron
Gold armor > returns appropriate amount of gold

One of the best things in this update.

wow, great work... that's a lot considering you were almost burnt out last week... hell that's a lot anyway.

BTW:you may want to hold out on that lens a bit longer; notch is adding a new lighting system and you may be able to take advantage of it.

Camerinthus wrote:

TheGuy wrote:Placing an iron tool in the crucible will return the correct amount of metal ingots. (1 for shovel 3 for pickaxe etc)

Edit: works for steel tools
Gold tools
Powered rail > returns the gold
Detector rail > returns iron
Rail > does nothing
Compass > returns 4 iron
Clock > returns 4 gold
Iron armor> returns appropriate amount of iron
Gold armor > returns appropriate amount of gold

One of the best things in this update.

I'm not sure I like that at all....You can damage an item to no durability then re-smelt it into ingots, then reuse it? I guess you'd have to go back to a crucible each time to do so, but you'd never have to use more steel to make a tool again.

On another note; time to find out how to get the second state of a planter.

KriiEiter wrote:
I'm not sure I like that at all....You can damage an item to no durability then re-smelt it into ingots, then reuse it? I guess you'd have to go back to a crucible each time to do so, but you'd never have to use more steel to make a tool again.

On another note; time to find out how to get the second state of a planter.

right click with dirt in your hand.

muggsbud wrote:
right click with dirt in your hand.

Oh great ruin all my fun. Nah just kidding, I did try to put water in it first though with a bucket (probably shouldn't have done it by redstone, haha). Thanks for the info.

KriiEiter wrote:I'm not sure I like that at all....You can damage an item to no durability then re-smelt it into ingots, then reuse it? I guess you'd have to go back to a crucible each time to do so, but you'd never have to use more steel to make a tool again.

It's basically a repair system...with a cost. The metal parts of tools can be reforged, while the non-metal bits are lost.

Personally, I'd try it before being too critical.

You'd have to make the haft again. You also have to remember that this is the top of the tech tree. You've earned the right to smelt.

Also I hate you Camerinthus , editing the wiki is addicting. ;)

KriiEiter wrote:
I'm not sure I like that at all....You can damage an item to no durability then re-smelt it into ingots, then reuse it? I guess you'd have to go back to a crucible each time to do so, but you'd never have to use more steel to make a tool again.

On another note; time to find out how to get the second state of a planter.

True, I forgot about that.

And for the planters with dirt, they need to go like this:

X-D-X
X-W-X
X-P-X

D=dirt block
W=water bucket
P=Planter

Also I hate you Camerinthus , editing the wiki is addicting. ;)

Yes it is! :D

FlowerChild wrote:

KriiEiter wrote:I'm not sure I like that at all....You can damage an item to no durability then re-smelt it into ingots, then reuse it? I guess you'd have to go back to a crucible each time to do so, but you'd never have to use more steel to make a tool again.

It's basically a repair system...with a cost. The metal parts of tools can be reforged, while the non-metal bits are lost.

Personally, I'd try it before being too critical.

I guess it's just because I have a skeleton spawner providing me ridiculous amounts of bones with which to make glue. And my dung farm keeps me happily supplied with too much dung to handle.
Who knows, perhaps I'll warm up to it.

On a brighter note, I love the planter recipe and everything else with this update. Keep up the great job!

KriiEiter wrote: On a brighter note, I love the planter recipe and everything else with this update. Keep up the great job!

The Planter recipe was already in the previous version. The only thing that changed there was that you could previously plant in a Planter without dirt in it due to a bug.

FlowerChild wrote:

KriiEiter wrote: On a brighter note, I love the planter recipe and everything else with this update. Keep up the great job!

The Planter recipe was already in the previous version. The only thing that changed there was that you could previously plant in a Planter without dirt in it due to a bug.

Which is why it never occurred to me to try and craft it to a next step, hehe.

Tried placing it on the ground and pouring water/placing dirt into it at first.

Tried placing it on the ground and pouring water/placing dirt into it at first.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that's on the crafting table.

Camerinthus wrote:

Tried placing it on the ground and pouring water/placing dirt into it at first.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that's on the crafting table.

I meant when it was 2.90 actually. Right after I got done firing it that's what I tried. Ruined my redstone wiring for my bellows (good thing it was just 1 piece of redstone dust).

oh its like Christmas, thank you Santa FC.


I just went on a clay expedition.. do you think I got enough?

No, you can never have enough! Actually, the kiln takes quite a lot of bricks to build (if you want it to also look good) so a large amount of clay is good :)

The planter doesn't give off a clay ball, but after the vase is spun out, it gives out two clay balls, still equaling four total(one from the crucible). Is this intentional?

HavokSCOUT wrote:The planter doesn't give off a clay ball, but after the vase is spun out, it gives out two clay balls, still equaling four total(one from the crucible). Is this intentional?

Yes.

I'm kind of late on this, but this is an awesome update (watched a video spoiling all the new stuff hehe). But I have to wake up soon >.< can't play this till tomorrow evening, and then I'm going on vacation for a bit, too! Damn vacation, getting in the way of my Better Than Wolves.

FlowerChild wrote:

KriiEiter wrote:I'm not sure I like that at all....You can damage an item to no durability then re-smelt it into ingots, then reuse it? I guess you'd have to go back to a crucible each time to do so, but you'd never have to use more steel to make a tool again.

It's basically a repair system...with a cost. The metal parts of tools can be reforged, while the non-metal bits are lost.

Personally, I'd try it before being too critical.

Logically it makes perfect sense. Battered and cracked iron armour could be melted down into the exact same metal that was used to make it, then reforged and smithed. The cost would be in the fuel needed to melt it down.

I really like this, actually, as it gives me a reason to make a full set of iron gear rather than just making stone/leather whenever I need tools and armour.