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Boat Canal with Pumps
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Boat Canal with Pumps
Hey Forum! I'm here to present you with my latest project test! Introducing: The Pump Based Boat Canal for HCB! Mind you, this would be danm near impossible to build in survival! For each block you go, you need 8 gearboxes, 6-8 axles, and 2 screw pumps. The design is fairly simple, and far as I know not an abuse of the pumps.
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Re: Boat Canal with Pumps
As amazing as this looks I cannot imagine that it is economically feasible. Just that short stretch represents enough iron to make 75% of your 32 SFS blocks.
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Very cool man :)
Impractical as hell, as you yourself said in the OP, but very cool :)
Impractical as hell, as you yourself said in the OP, but very cool :)
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Re: Boat Canal with Pumps
I've got a comment here but first a question: By canal you do mean this is a boating canal yes?
Or do you have another purpose in mind?
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Please ignore everything I said previously. This design is brilliant and incredibly useful because you have just designed a lock system for minecraft water transportation. My error was in limiting myself to thinking of this as a long distance transit option but that completely misses the point.
What you have built here is the solution to that problem one always eventually runs into when a river or lake is seperated from the next body of water by more than one meter of land, preventing the water from merging into a source block and preventing further travel by boat. In the real world this obstacle to river navigation occurs when elevation changes, requiring a boat to sit inside a lock mechanism while water is pumped in or out to match the heit of the next stage of river.
I was. Oncerned about the iron cost of this system over a useful distance of two hundred meters where I should have seen it for the three to twelve meters to make it possible to travel around a map without needing more than one boat. Very well done.
What you have built here is the solution to that problem one always eventually runs into when a river or lake is seperated from the next body of water by more than one meter of land, preventing the water from merging into a source block and preventing further travel by boat. In the real world this obstacle to river navigation occurs when elevation changes, requiring a boat to sit inside a lock mechanism while water is pumped in or out to match the heit of the next stage of river.
I was. Oncerned about the iron cost of this system over a useful distance of two hundred meters where I should have seen it for the three to twelve meters to make it possible to travel around a map without needing more than one boat. Very well done.
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As someone who grew up near the old Erie Canal locks, this is one of the things I've always wanted to see possible in MC. This is beautiful.
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Re: Boat Canal with Pumps
Apologies for the late post. After posting this I was inspired to work on my IRL projects, then fell into the codespace for 4 hours then passed out.
On topic though:
On topic though:
Bingo :P The design is way to complex and expensive to build a canal from your maintain base to the beaches 5,000 blocks away, but is a more manageable project when on traveling a few blocks. As well, the system can be used to keep boats out of fortified harbors by turning off the pumps. All of these things I only thought of after building it. That's the thing I love about this mod. It gives you the tools to design and build things that are beyond even your own imagination.DaveYanakov wrote: What you have built here is the solution to that problem one always eventually runs into when a river or lake is separated from the next body of water by more than one meter of land, preventing the water from merging into a source block and preventing further travel by boat. In the real world this obstacle to river navigation occurs when elevation changes, requiring a boat to sit inside a lock mechanism while water is pumped in or out to match the height of the next stage of river.
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I can't test right now but couldn't you remove half the pumps and rely upon two or more merging streams to fill the gaps?
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Re: Boat Canal with Pumps
That's whats happening now. The stream is brought up on block, then flows downstream 5 blocks, then falls back into the provider channel, flowing to exactly the end of the other stream.Foxy Boxes wrote:I can't test right now but couldn't you remove half the pumps and rely upon two or more merging streams to fill the gaps?
Also, as a side note, I had some really odd behavior with pumps while creating this. They kept thinking that this was a way to cheat and would shut off, requiring a restart.
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Nono, I meanso that the pump flooring ia replaced with say a pump-wood checkerboard pattern.
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it is surely a op build
i guess an EATS road would be a more piratical build
i guess an EATS road would be a more piratical build
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but then you have strong currents, which inhibits your travel.Foxy Boxes wrote:Nono, I meanso that the pump flooring ia replaced with say a pump-wood checkerboard pattern.
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But you don't you see because the currents from one cancels the other, depending on how you arrange the pumps.
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That's only with source blocks. I tried. Sorry, if you want the canal you have to pay the price :PFoxy Boxes wrote:But you don't you see because the currents from one cancels the other, depending on how you arrange the pumps.
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A wonderful example of BTW ingenuity.
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Re: Boat Canal with Pumps
If you can deal with having water pushing you into a central channel, you can get by with far fewer pumps. Channel remains rectangular but 5-6 wide. You can do 4, but you're more likely to get pushed into an edge. You can get 13 long run from a 2 step up pump.
So unless you've got an elevated water source nearby, you need 4 pumps (2 for each side) or more for a longer run. Oddly, as you increase the length there should be a point after which you only need one set of pumps when you can run a channel over the canal.
Edit: Or, you can just chain one into another with one pump every 7 blocks for each side. Just have to take care you don't get the water from a pump back into itself.
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Edit: Or, you can just chain one into another with one pump every 7 blocks for each side. Just have to take care you don't get the water from a pump back into itself.
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