The ongoing 1.3 update epic

[RaustBlackDragon]

Hey FC, a modder friend of mine directed me to this incredibly helpful link. I'm not sure how much is left here that you're not aware of, but I thought I'd try and return the favor for all the info you've passed on to us:

http://wiki.vg/Protocol

[FlowerChild]

Hey FC, a modder friend of mine directed me to this incredibly helpful link. I'm not sure how much is left here that you're not aware of, but I thought I'd try and return the favor for all the info you've passed on to us:

http://wiki.vg/Protocol

Interesting, thanks! I'll likely verify any of this info I need myself, as I rarely fully trust this kind of documentation, but it may be useful regardless.

And BTW, in case you missed it in all these posts, be sure to check out that IAnimal info I posted for you on the previous page. I think it will make your life much easier.

[Eriottosan]

Yet more thanks for the updates of progress, and especially for the code snippet - I'm sure it'll come in helpful once I start updating! Keep it up, man. And again, don't burn yourself out! Thanks, FC (:

[RaustBlackDragon]

Hey FC, a modder friend of mine directed me to this incredibly helpful link. I'm not sure how much is left here that you're not aware of, but I thought I'd try and return the favor for all the info you've passed on to us:

http://wiki.vg/Protocol

Interesting, thanks! I'll likely verify any of this info I need myself, as I rarely fully trust this kind of documentation, but it may be useful regardless.

And BTW, in case you missed it in all these posts, be sure to check out that IAnimal info I posted for you on the previous page. I think it will make your life much easier.

Thank you very much for that, though out of curiosity, do you know if it's possible to implement multiple interfaces in a java class? If not, I may have sparrow issues.

[FlowerChild]

Thank you very much for that, though out of curiosity, do you know if it's possible to implement multiple interfaces in a java class? If not, I may have sparrow issues.

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public class FCBlockAestheticNonOpaque extends Block
	implements FCIBlock, ITextureProvider, FCIBlockSubtyped

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[FlowerChild]

Mill stone grind progress indicator fixed. Easy peasy.

For modders:

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From my mill stone container class:

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	@Override
    public void addCraftingToCrafters( ICrafting craftingInterface )
    {
        super.addCraftingToCrafters( craftingInterface );
        
        craftingInterface.updateCraftingInventoryInfo( this, 0, localTileEntityMillStone.m_iGrindCounter );
    }
	
	@Override
    public void updateCraftingResults()
    {
        super.updateCraftingResults();
        
        Iterator iterator = crafters.iterator();

        do
        {
            if (!iterator.hasNext())
            {
                break;
            }

            ICrafting icrafting = (ICrafting)iterator.next();

            if ( m_iLastMillStoneGrindCounter != localTileEntityMillStone.m_iGrindCounter )
            {
                icrafting.updateCraftingInventoryInfo( this, 0, localTileEntityMillStone.m_iGrindCounter );
            }
        }
        while (true);

        m_iLastMillStoneGrindCounter = localTileEntityMillStone.m_iGrindCounter;
    }

	@Override
    public void updateProgressBar( int iVariableIndex, int iValue )
    {
        if ( iVariableIndex == 0 )
        {
        	localTileEntityMillStone.m_iGrindCounter = iValue;
        }
    }

I used ContainerFurnace as a reference for the above. You can find a good example of using this method to update multiple variables there as well.

[FlowerChild]

A small bit of info with regards to watchable data on entities:

It will only send packets at time intervals specified in EntityTracker.java, and it will only send packets containing the watchable data, if there have been changes to it since the last time it sent a packet.

With stuff like the inLove variable, it's not as bad as it sending a packet every tick. HOWEVER, it does guarantee it will send one every second (since the data will have most certainly changed), instead of just when love mode starts and stops.

So yes, it's still a potential performance issue, but not as bad a one as I thought (1/20th as bad actually ;) ).

[Ethinolicbob]

Totally appreciate all these insights.
I have decided to take next week off work to work on my mod so I will put your comments to good use.
By the way how much time are you sinking into this?

[FlowerChild]

Boo-fucking-yeah...

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Now, I'm not sure if I'm too happy with that building design (was trying something new), but what I am totally fucking ecstatic about is that Wind Mill :)

There were two things I was most concerned about with the 1.3 update: my custom interfaces, and my custom entities.

Well, turns out I took care of the first of each today, and now that I've figured out how to do them, it should be all smooth sailing from here.

So, as I said: Boo-fucking-yeah :)

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to collapse for awhile ;)

[Ribky]

Hooray! Enjoy your well deserved rest man. This is great news.

[Battlecat]

Rock on Flowerchild! What you've accomplished in the week since 1.3.1 was officially released is absolutely stupendous.

Have a good rest!

[simanick]

[quote="FlowerChild"][/quote]

whats this its not made of cobblestone?

Also Amazing, glad to here that the progress is not killing you, good luck.:)

[TheAnarchitect]

Ah, the advantages of pessimism. Went in imaging the worst case scenario, and then...

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Which is awesome. I'm glad it's going well.

[CueballSWR]

TY FC

[FlowerChild]

Ah, the advantages of pessimism. Went in imaging the worst case scenario, and then...

Well, not exactly. I think it's going pretty much how I expected on the time consumed front. I'm just happy to be over the roughest bits.

[CreeperCommando]

My god, you're a trooper with the coding. You really can make this sound easy o.O
I find this thread really interesting as I learn tons about "program design", I pretty much see programming as a necessary evil to learn (a very good tool to know) but I haven't really gotten to the application bit of it all... It immensely works as an inspiration seeing a professionals 'journal' when working with it.
Do this in your own pace and try to have fun, even if this is the grunt work right now ;)

[FlowerChild]

Do this in your own pace and try to have fun, even if this is the grunt work right now ;)

It's honestly not so bad since I started my "new world" (in practice if not in theory). I play a bit...code a bit...go back to playing.

I was right about it making this much more manageable. And frankly, it *is* exciting to be seeing the mod get closer and closer to being SMP. I haven't been taking any short-cuts in that regard, making sure that I'm sending an amount of data that's appropriate to multiplayer and doing it in the proper fashion at all stages, so while this initial release definitely won't be for SMP, I'm very optimistic with regards to it in the future.

Anyways, it's definitely a lot of work, but it is rather exciting at the same time.

[quew8]

this initial release definitely won't be for SMP, I'm very optimistic with regards to it in the future.

I can not even begin to understand why mojang would make an internal server mimicking multiplayer different from regular servers (I suppose its performance issues). But Jesus, WHEN DO YOU SLEEP? I take a light nap for a few hours and when I wake up you have fixed about 20 new things. My mind is blown, thankyou.

[CreeperCommando]

Anyways, it's definitely a lot of work, but it is rather exciting at the same time.

Well I can prove that the excitement is contagious to at least one more person. :)
I haven't been more interested in anything program related than when reading your update journals (EDIT: as in I'm enjoying the journey).
Mind you that I'm supposed to know some basic Java, it simply doesn't want to stick in my head :( but as discouraging that is, seeing your progress is nothing less than inspiration to me.

Btw, sent you a little thank you ;)

[Battosay]

Awesome :)
It's really cool to see where you are in the update process with the screenshots, keep them coming :)
Interesting to read your tips too, even if I'm no modder, that's a good insight of how you're doing your magic, and I'm surprised to see that most of that code is somehow understandable to me :)

Btw, I sent you a drink to help you in this process, I don't know if you found it yet ;)

[Adjudicator79]

I'm reduced to getting my BTW fix only through the forums, given my computer is in storage pending my coming move to D.C.

That said, this has been an awesome read, FlowerChild, and it's great to see you enjoying the modding work so much. I'll be expressing my pleasure more concretely as soon as I find the donation button again.

I'm a relatively smart guy - I've got oodles of degrees and you can ask me anything about international law, politics, or theory and I'll have something intelligent to say. But the stuff you're talking about makes me feel like the kid at the back of the class scratching my head and wondering when everyone decided to start speaking a different language!

Thanks so much for using your for-profit skills to make a free entertainment product for all of us!

[FlowerChild]

I can not even begin to understand why mojang would make an internal server mimicking multiplayer different from regular servers (I suppose its performance issues).

They haven't actually. I think that's largely an issue with decompiling, as mentioned earlier in the thread.

[quew8]

I can not even begin to understand why mojang would make an internal server mimicking multiplayer different from regular servers (I suppose its performance issues).

They haven't actually. I think that's largely an issue with decompiling, as mentioned earlier in the thread.

Oh... <feeling_stupid> <\feeling_stupid> <acting_stupid> I just assumed it must be since you said this release wouldn't support multiplayer. Must have missed that earlier post though <\acting_stupid>

[FlowerChild]

Oh... <feeling_stupid> <\feeling_stupid> <acting_stupid> I just assumed it must be since you said this release wouldn't support multiplayer. Must have missed that earlier post though <\acting_stupid>

Nah, the main reason this release won't be SMP is that would require extensive testing and likely debugging all on its own. Yes, I would have to do some work in porting the code over to the SMP server as well, due to the deobfuscation thing, and I don't want to have to deal with that right now, but mainly I'm worried about quality control if I try to release for SMP right away.

[quew8]

Oh... <feeling_stupid> <\feeling_stupid> <acting_stupid> I just assumed it must be since you said this release wouldn't support multiplayer. Must have missed that earlier post though <\acting_stupid>

Nah, the main reason this release won't be SMP is that would require extensive testing and likely debugging all on its own. Yes, I would have to do some work in porting the code over to the SMP server as well, due to the deobfuscation thing, and I don't want to have to deal with that right now, but mainly I'm worried about quality control if I try to release for SMP right away.

OK 2 thoughts:
1: Thank you for explaining that (I know you don't really like doing that for fools)
2: Super impressed you refuse to release something because you won't compromise on quality on one or two bugs.